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Santa Monica? i just moved here and i work in santa monica. my work schedule is very flexible and i have a lot of free time. so what are some fun things to do here...other than the beach

What's the difference between santa monica and los angeles? I would like to know what's the biggest difference living in Santa Monica, Santa Barbara and Los Angeles? When I asked for the differences I meant as people, traffict, things to do, mountains? beaches? places to live, gyms etc

How do you get from Santa Monica to the Home Depot Center without spending a fortune on taxi fares? Going to LA in June and want to go to a Galaxy game whilst there. We will be staying in Santa Monica, but it looks an absolute nightmare to get there on public transport, and a taxi looks extortionate. Can anyone help please?

Where are some places in santa monica that are good for parties? I am 14 and I want to have a party in a big room that i can decorate the way I want to. So are there any rooms in santa monica that are good for renting?

What business can i own in santa monica for 1 million dollars, stable income, and low attention? I have to goto school and i can't invest my time into the business so i'll need to hire folks. What can I get for 1 million dollars near Santa Monica pier? or related near areas in Santa monica in general. thank you.

How far is santa monica college from west hollywood? Im going to santa monica college but i want to live in westhollywood how far away is it. Thanx!

Should I transfer my credits to Santa Monica College or start over again there? So about 2 years ago I was in 3 classes and had to drop them due to an illness and started at the same community college. My gpa is 2.0 right now and I'm still taking courses for the rest of this year. I want to further get into UCSB. Should I start over again at Santa Monica College or transfer my credits, would I still have a chance at getting in with if I transfer with that history or should I start over again at Santa Monica College?

What rides are at Santa Monica Pier also how much are they? Also is there a shuttle or tour bus that takes you to the Santa Monica Pier from hotels at Anaheim. How long would you need to stay at the pier to go on all the rides. I have an 8yr old that will be going with me too.

What is the best route to fly from Santa Monica to Henderson Exec. in Nevada? I am a new pilot and am planning a x-country in a cessna 172/U from Santa Monica to Henderson Exec. in Nevada.

What is the best nail salon in the Santa Monica area? Not really happy with the place(s) I've been going. Looking to get a good manicure to go with my Halloween Costume. Looking to stay local to the Santa Monica, California area (although organic/natural place would be worth a little extra effort.) PS. Already looked on yelp and citysearch. Interested to hear actual opinions. THANKS!

What are some fun things to do in Santa Monica (and surrounding areas) if your a teen? What are some fun things to do in Santa Monica (and surrounding areas) if your a teen? I'm going with my dad, and i want to know some fun things we could do in santa monica and surrounding areas that wouldn't be totally lame.

What is traffic like traveling from Santa Monica to Simi Village,CA during rush hour? My friend is looking to move to Santa Monica but work in Simi Village by the Reagan Library. She would be traveling to Simi Village in the morning and to Santa Monica in the evening. I know rush hour is terrible in Los Angeles, however I would think this pattern would be in the opposite direction from most rush hour traffic. Simi Valley. Thank you.

What is there to do in Santa Monica, California besides going to the beach? Im going to Santa Monica in a few weeks Is there anything to do there besides going to the beach?

how far is santa monica pier to san diego? I'm planning a romantic trip to SanDiego but I would also like to see Santa Monica pier. Is this close enough to drive to? How is the weather in November?

What is the quickest route to Santa Monica College from Woodland Hills? I plan on going to Santa Monica state, since its much better than pierce i was wondering what's the quickest route there?

How much do Santa Monica Big Blue Bus Drivers start off with hourly? I'm a school bus driver for First Student in L.A. and Los Angeles Unified School District is cutting off their large bus routes and many of the routes are becoming special education routes. I have no problem with that but they are aware that people do need to make a proper living. A lot of drivers are going to Transits and I was wondering how much do Santa Monica Blue bus start you off with?

How much are cats at the santa monica animal shelter? does anyone know how much it is to buy a cat at the santa monica animal shelter?

How dangerous is the wildlife in the Santa Monica Mountans? Yesterday in class, I heard from our professor that if people work in the SM Mountains, you'll have to deal with rattlesnakes. Now I hate snakes. I can't stand the sight of them. How often do people encounter snakes or any animals in the Santa Monica Mountains?

Have you noticed the sun setting behind the Santa Monica Mountains instead of the ocean? I live in Hermosa Beach, and I've noticed the sun is setting behind the the Santa Monica mountains and not the ocean. I've never seen it set that far north before and never behind the mountains. All my neighbors have noticed the same thing. I know the the sun does move, but I've noticed a huge difference in it's position since April. Does anyone know where I can find data on the sun's position in past years and compare it to this year's position? Thanks!

how do you get to santa monica beach by bus? I live in Alhambra california,a nd theres to many people so we need to take a bus to santa monica bus for a gathering. but i cant really find any buses that goes to santa monica. anybody know how?

Were can i find a santa monica college roomate with a room and cheap rent? Were can i find a santa monica college roomate with a room and cheap rent?

what is the best way of finding somewhere to rent in Santa Monica for 3 months? I'm gonna be in Santa Monica for 2-3 months and I'm struggling to find somewhere to stay. I want to rent an apartment, but they tend to be at least 6 months lease. I don't really want to flat-share with other people. Any ideas about where to look? I've been using craigslist but not having much luck.

how much does it cost to send a letter to santa monica from san deigo? i live in rancho santa fe and i want to send a letter to my friend in santa monica how much would that cost?

How do I get a new car registration card for my new Santa Monica home address? I recently changed my vehicle registration address to my new home in Santa Monica. I moved here from San Diego. How can I get a new registration card with my new address on it?

What is the best Florist In Santa Monica California? I am headed to Santa Monica with my girlfriends what is the best place to call to get flowers?

How do I get to the Santa Monica courthouse from the VA Medical Center for jury duty in September? I have to attend the municipal court jury selection process thing at Santa Monica Courthouse and I read the directions that it is off of Wilshire on 7th Street. I just need to know which direction I walk in after I get off the bus at Wilshire and Glendon. I think the courthouse is likely away from the hospital rather than toward it but I don't know.

Can I rent an apartment in Santa Monica for just a month? My boyfriend and I would love to travel to Santa Monica and stay for a few months. Can we rent apartments for just a month at a time? And on average how much do you think it would cost. We would both get jobs, and save a lot before we go. If anyone has any other advice about travelling/Santa Monica that would be much appreciated too.

What types of fish can I catch in the Santa Monica sea region in Los Angeles? Say I have a sailboat and I want to catch Tuna or Salmon. How far would I have to go out into the sea from santa monica, and catch them? If very far to catch those particular fish, what can be caught in the everyday sailing radius?

What fish can be caught in the Santa Monica sea region? Say I have a sailboat and I want to catch Tuna or Salmon. How far would I have to go out into the sea from santa monica, and catch them? If very far to catch those particular fish, what can be caught in the everyday sailing radius?

Is santa monica a good place to live in california? Ive always dreamed of moving to california and santa monica seems like a good place, close to the beach but also the city. Is it worth moving there from michigan?

Is Dodge Stadium closer to Anaheim or Santa Monica? Also how can I get tickets from Australia? I am an Australian who will be in LA from 1 Sept to 11 September and want to attend a Major League Baseball match. I will be staying in both Anaheim and Santa Monica. Also I have checked Ticketmaster USA and wondered if I bought the tickets online, would they be delivered to Australia or is there an agent that can purchase them on my behalf. Should I simply ask my travel agent???? Thanks in advance for any help.

What are some good film schools in Santa Monica California? I was just wondering what some decent, and good films schools in the Santa Monica area would be.

Does a street performer need to get a permit from the city of Santa Monica? My 15-year-old son plays the keyboard. He wants to perform in front of audience. Is there any permit required to perform on street in Santa Monica? Are there any other places? He does not care about money but wants to have experience. Please advise.

What should I pack for my 3 day trip to Santa Monica this summer? I am going to Santa Monica for 3 days this summer and will only be bringing a carry-on. What should I wear on the plane, and what should I pack. I will be staying at a hotel near the beach and the pier & promenade & will going out for dinner (not too fancy) at night. No clubbing either. I am a female in my 30s.

I am running from Santa Monica, CA to New York, NY by myself. How should I carry gear? I am running from Santa Monica, CA to New York, NY by myself. Is there anything besides a 'jogging stroller' that I can use to transport my necessary equipment? Maybe something I can pull while running? Instead of having tons of gear, what equipment should I bring to survive by myself on the road with the smallest amount of baggage possible?

What's the best solution for having a car when moving out to Santa Monica for 3 months? I live in NYC, never have owned a car. I'm going out to Santa Monica for 3 months. What's the best solution for having a car for those 3 months. I want at least a decent Honda Civic or a cheap BMW. Around how much am I looking for each? Thanks.

Does anyone know of a good, reasonably priced contractor in the Santa Monica Area? I just bought a new house and am looking for a really good contractor in the Santa Monica area that is reasonably priced. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Moving to Santa Monica, what are the good schools in the area? I'm moving to the Santa Monica area next summer and I'm trying to find a good school for my senior year! So far the ones I have found are: Santa Monica High School El Segundo High School Palisades Charter High School the school just needs to be within 20-30 minutes of santa monica any opinions on those schools or any other schools i should look at? thank you!!! :) well we don't have a house yet, where our house is will be based on the schools.

How much does it cost to rent a bike on the Santa Monica Pier? My husband and I will be going to Santa Monica and want to rent bicylces for the day. How much does it cost?

How much money does it cost to get on rides at Santa Monica Pier California? I want to take my kids to the Santa Monica Pier in California. I just don't know how much money I would need to go. Can any one help?

How long would it take to get to Culver City from Santa Monica? If I stayed in Santa Monica and wanted to go to Culver for dinner, how long would it take to get there driving in evening traffic (around 7.30pm)? Also, how far is manhattan beach from Beverly hills?

How do you get from santa monica to the grove, using a bus? One of my friends is going to the grove, and she is using the big blue bus. How do you get from the santa monica to the grove? Thank you guys so much for your help! :)

Does the Blue Bus go from Santa Monica to Hollywood tourist sites? If not, what are your suggestions? My mom and I are staying close to the Santa Monica beach without a car, and we're wanting to see all of the tourist spots around Hollywood & Highland on a Friday or Saturday afternoon.

Anyone live in Santa Monica and work in Downtown LA? How long is your commute? My fiance works downtown, but we'd like to live in Santa Monica. How do you make it work? Do you take the subway? How long does it take you to get there in morning traffic? Thanks in advance.

How far is Santa Monica from LAX airport? Is it easier to take a public bus from LAX airport to Santa Monica? If you could only go to either Santa Monica, Manhattan Beach or Venice Beach, which would it be and why? I have a long layover at LAX airport and was wondering what I should do with my time.

What time does Panera open in Santa Monica? The Location is in Santa Monica on Wilshire. I was wondering at what time it normally opens on weekdays.

How can I take the Metro from Downey to Santa Monica College? I'm coming from the Downey Metro Station, I want to try taking public transportation all the way to Santa Monica College. What lines and buses do I need to take? (I'm a student at SMC btw so the Big Blue Bus will be my friend this semester).

What is the rush hour commute from Burbank to Santa Monica like? I am moving out to California, staying with a family friend until I get settled in the area. I'll be living in Burbank but working in Santa Monica, I'll start work at 8am. What time should I expect to have to leave in order to not be late? Thanks!

Where should I stay in between Santa Monica and Santa Cruz? I am in a road trip and need to stop and stay (on the 26th of May), in a place by the sea that has night life and is in between Santa Monica and Santa Cruz. What do you recommend?

Is Santa Monica Beach in california open at night? Like can someone go onto the sand for a walk? I would like to know if Santa Monica beach is open at night? Or any of the other beaches down the highway near Santa Monica. Open for say taking a walk at 2 am haha

What's the best way to drive from San Francisco to Santa Monica? I need to drive from San Francisco to Santa Monica. What's the best route which combines both speed and a great experience? Bear in mind I'm a Brit who hasn't seen anything between SF and LA!

How can I find an apartment with a month-to-month lease in Santa Monica? I am looking for a two-bedroom apartment in Santa Monica from now (September) until January. I've tried Craigslist and Westside Rentals, but am having trouble finding many short-term listings. What is the best way to find (and get) a short term apartment?

Is it cheaper to live in Venice or Santa Monica? I'm planning on moving to california when i graduate HS and going to Santa Monica community college. Where should I live?

Is the santa monica pier open on new years? Me and my friends are looking for something to do for new years and thinking Santa Monica, is the pier or any where near there open at midnight?

What happened to Berkley Gardens Elderly home in Santa Monica? I guess its was closed down and they havent done anything to it in years its just been sitting there in santa monica on broadway and 26th. I know people who have been in there before and they have said that everything looks like they just up and left. So if anyone knows what happened please tell.

anywhere around santa monica, california to buy organic corned beef to cook for st. patrick's day? I regularly shop at the Santa Monica Co-Op. I regularly attend the Santa Monica Farmer's Markets.

Whats the fastest way from los angeles to santa monica without a car? i dont have a car so im wondering whats the fastest way to santa monica from los angeles.

Which public transportation lines take to go from Santa Monica to Hollywood, Westwood and Beverly Hills ? I'm french and I'll go to Santa Monica on spring for holidays. Thanks for your informations and Happy New Year from France !

Does anyone know of any good hotels to stay in in Santa Monica by the beach? I plan to go to Santa Monica in June of 2009 celebrating my graduation. Does anyone know of any good cheap hotels by the beach? And also, are there any good places to go in HollyWood, L.A., and Beverly Hills for two 17 year olds?

What's the best way to drive from San Francisco to Santa Monica? I need to drive from San Francisco to Santa Monica. What's the best route which combines both speed and a great experience? Bear in mind I'm a Brit who hasn't seen anything between SF and LA!

What was the name of a Street-Press/Magazine that was being handed out in Santa Monica? What was the name of a Street-Press/Magazine that was being handed out in Santa Monica? It was around early April 08 and they worked on donations. It also had an article about kids who turn violent from playing computer games. I am looking to het another copy of this issue and others.

Can anyone tell me the driving distance between disneyland and santa monica beach? could either be in minutes or miles. I am trying to plan my summer vacation and I have to include something for my kids... Any advice on a good not too expensive hotel in santa monica I'd like one close to the beach. Thanks.

What is your favorite vegan or vegetarian restaurant in Santa Monica? There is an increasing number of vegan and vegetarian restaurants (including those of ethnic cuisines) on L.A.'s "west side," including "raw" restaurants. Which ones are your favorites, and why? I would include all the areas around Santa Monica also such as Venice, West L.A., Culver City, Marina del Rey, Inglewood, etc. I'm wondering about R. Crumb's suggestion of "Gardenburger" in Santa Monica. I can't seem to find it on the internet. Where is it? I'm only familiar with the veggie PRODUCT called Gardenburger. Thanks!

What are good locations to watch meteor shower in Santa Monica, LA? Does anyone know the best place to watch the Orionid meteor shower that's coming this Sunday? Would Santa Monica Pier be a good one?

Getting from the Los Angeles Amtrak station to somewhere near Santa Monica with public transportation? How would someone get from the Amtrak station to Santa Monica, or close-by.... is there a metro that stops on the westside anywhere? thanks Thanks! :-) i appreciate it.

What's the best time of the year to visit Santa Monica? I'm looking to go to Santa Monica for vacation at the end of June or mid-July. I've heard of the June Gloom, so am leaning toward mid-July. Temps are supposedly around the low 80s which is fine since it'll probably be more bearable than the hot, humid temps I'm used to CT during the summer. Just want to make sure there isn't something else I should take into account that should make me reconsider.

Does anyone know of a decent hotel with good rates around santa monica? I need a place to say within an hour drive of Santa monica, CA. Anyone know of any good hotels and how to contact them? I don't want to stay in the ghetto or anything.

How long would it take to drive from Beverley hills to Santa Monica In the car ? i was wondering how long it would take from rodeo drive bh to Santa monica ?

Is it possible to find an apartment for rent in the santa monica area for 700$? i mean a 700$ ONE BDRM apt within reasonable driving distance (10mins) of the commercial area of santa monica near the beach. neiborhood safety does not realy concern me as long as its not horribly dangerous. in other words a semi tough neiborhood does not bother me. so is it possible to find?

what's the best way to drive to santa monica from pasadena? i've started working in santa monica and i live near pasadena. i'm wondering if someone has some advice on best times to leave and/or best routes.

Where can I find a hacky sack in Santa Monica? I'm trying to find my brother a quality hacky sack. Anyone know where I could find one in Santa Monica, CA?

Is there any self contained accommodation for 10 days in Santa Monica? Im going to Santa Monica for 10 days and need to find a place where I can cook in a kitchen. Self contained place. I hate hotels.

Is there rock climbing in Santa Monica Pier? I've never been to Santa Monica Pier so I am going with my boyfriend and I want to know if theres rock climbing there. And is it like an amusement park there?

Is it legal for the city of Santa Monica to take 15% of gross wages for being a surf trainer? I? I have lived and taught surfing for 20 years here in Santa Monica privately and because of all the camps they now want to take 15% of my gross wages. The state takes 20% all ready. I will be moving to Riverside because of the expense of rent here. I only teach 3-4 hours a day because its impossible to do it 8 hours a day, especially under their beach rules. Can the city do this?

Where is a cheap and safe place to live if I am working in Santa Monica? I just relocated to California from Florida for a job position in Santa Monica. I will be working on Wilshire and 17th street. I want to commute as less as possible but also can't afford to pay over $1500 per month for housing minimum 1BR 1BA for two adults and two cats. What are some good, safe, inexpensive areas that I can look in...and please be as specific and detailed as possible.

Where is a good place to eat in Santa Monica? I screwed up and missed out on my girlfriend's birthday party and I want to take her out to a nice place in Santa Monica along with a couple of my friends. Any suggestions?

Where can I park for free in Santa Monica near the pier? Does anyone know where I can park for free (or at least cheap) in Santa Monica near the pier?

How long will it take to get to Universal Studios from Santa Monica?what is the best way 2 get there (in min)? Also......anyone know how far Disneyland is from Santa Monica? Am i better of staying 1 night in Aneheim for disneyland? I am from Sydney Australia, so any help would be great!

What cities are a short distance north of Santa Monica but cheaper to live in? I need to move out west-need a cheaper but close place near Santa Monica. City close enough with a reasonanable drive to work in Santa Monica. If you know any good apartments that great too.

Going to Santa Monica Pier in early April. What will the weather be like? We will be visiting Santa Monica the week of April 7th and would like to hit the pier and the beach. What kind of temperatures can we expect? Will the water be warm enough to swim? Will it be crowded?

Is there a quiet coffee shop in Santa Monica open until 11 pm? Every coffee shop in Santa Monica that I have found is only open until 8:30 pm or 9 pm. If it is open past 9 it is usually extremely busy. Does anyone know a quiet place?

Is there still a Ferris Wheel on Santa Monica Pier? I am going to Santa Monica Pier with my girlfriend because she loves Ferris Wheels. I googled it and read that the Ferris Wheel was SOLD on April 25th 2008! I read they were planning on building a new one... but I'm not sure if this was completed yet. Does anyone near that area know if currently there is a Ferries Wheel there, whether it's the new one or old one?

howlong would i have to live in santa monica to be able to attend the community college? i live in PA and am graduating in 2009. i would like to move to santa monica and attend cc then transfer to berkeley after 2 years. would i have to move right after graduating?

Moving from SF to santa monica, what are some good affordable neighborhoods? I am 18, planning on moving down to LA in july with my friend to attend santa monica college, and we would be splitting rent. Either renting a room, or getting a cheap place. I really want to be close to a urban, hip downtown area, and santa monica is already close to the beach. I have a car and can drive to school. anny reccomendations of AFFORDABLE neighborhoods to live in? =)

Can anyone recommend to me a very nice hotel in Santa Monica Beach area? Hi, I am looking for a nice, maybe 3.5 star hotel in the Santa Monica Beach Area in California. Can anybody recommend a good place to stay for one night that is not cheap but not a whole lot of money either? thank you so much.

Where is the best place to park for extended hours in West Hollywood near Santa Monica Blvd. & La Brea? I started working in the West Hollywood area just south of Santa Monica Blvd & La Brea and I'm wondering where the best place to park in this area is. There's almost never open parking spaces on Romaine Street and anything south of that seems to be residential where parking is only 2 hours maximum. This isn't the greatest option when I'm looking for a place to keep my car for 7 or so hours. Any help would be appreciated.

Is there a lot of crime in santa monica? I want to live somewere in la that doesnt have gangs everywere. If santa monica is like that, were are places that I can walk outside and not worry about getting jumped or muged,or even killed?

Is there public transportation from Santa Monica to LA CA? Planning a vacation to Santa Monica/LA. Will I need to rent a car or is there public transportation?

has a 727 ever landed at Santa Monica airport? has a 727 ever landed at Santa Monica airport (not by accident)

What is there to do in Santa Monica on Halloween? Considering going to Santa Monica on Halloween, is there any good parties?

Is there a family in Santa Monica for hosting? I am an international student so I would like to know if there are some good families there in Santa Monica That would offer to host me? Thank you

Any 18 and older casinos near Santa Monica? Fairly new to the Santa Monica area, but being 19, there are no casinos that i know of that i can go to. Does anyone know of any where you dont have to be 21 to be able to play?

how can i get from san bernardino CA to santa monica college in santa monica CA on the metro?? i want to go take my assesment test at santa monica college a.s.a.p but i have no ride.. how can i figure out what train busses to take in order to get to santa monica the fastest... if there is a website that i can use that would really help.. thanx everyone!

What to do with kids in Santa Monica? I'll have an 11-year old boy with me on a Friday, all day, in Santa Monica. Any ideas? We can travel outside of Santa Monica too.

Horseback riding on the beach in Santa Monica? We are going to Santa Monica, California soon. My daughter would like to rent a horse to ride on the beach along the Pacific Ocean. Any suggestions?

How far from Santa Monica to Laguna Beach, Ca? I'm 18 and my friends and I are from PENNSYLVANIA...i know :[ tell me about it. And, are dieing to go to Cali for a vaca to the beach :]] One of the friend's Dad lives there;; and we're planning on flying out to stay with him...if he'll let us. What are some greatttt places we should know about? What are some of the best beaches near Santa Monica...and does anyone know how far it is from there to Laguna? Any information about anything would be awesome :]] we're a bunch of teeeeenage girls so :]] shoot!

Can anyone help me find affordable apartments in Santa Monica? I am off to search for apartments in Santa Monica tomorrow, and would like to see if you anyone knew of any good ones?? Thanks.

What temp agencies does Yahoo in Santa Monica use? I am seeking work at Yahoo Inc. in Santa Monica via a temp agency, but I do not know which ones they use.

Anyone know of any place to find a VACANT WAREHOUSE on the Westside/Santa Monica? Me and a few buddies are looking for a warehouse/garage to move into and call home. Preferably on the Westside of LA, closer to Santa Monica. We're artists of various talents...but are also students. We cant afford downtown loft prices... plus who wants to move into a loft that you really cant mess up? Our needs are small...just a bathroom with a shower and along with a small kitchen area would be sufficient. Peace

Growing apricots and plums in Santa Monica, CA? Hello Could you tell me which variety of apricot and plum trees will grow (and produce fruits) in Santa Monica, California, Zip:90405. Many thanks for your help!

Looking for a Cal Bears sports bar in Santa Monica or Venice? Does anyone know of a sports bar in Santa Monica of Venice that Cal Bears fans frequent? I'm looking for a place to watch tomorrow's game. Thanks!

Is Santa Monica safe for a female traveling alone? I have been to S.M. several times before, but this time I may be alone. Is the bike path safe for a female to be biking along it by herself in the morning hours? Also, is it safe to take the MTA bus to other areas of L.A. and transfer at Santa Monica Blvd & Wilshire Blvd to catch another bus to Robertson Blvd for shopping?

From Santa Monica College to Santa Anita Westfield shoppingtown? Anyone please tell me the fastest way to get Westfield shoppingmall from santa monica college by public transportation. Could be either bus or rail or both. I'm leaving at 4:00 PM. Again, From Santa Monica College: 1900 Pico Boulevard Santa Monica, CA 90405 To Westfield: 400 S. Baldwin Ave. Arcadia, CA 91007 Thanks everybody :)

What is the cost of living in Santa Monica, Ca? Please feel free to give any advice you might have for me. I will be finishing a class to become a phlebotomist soon. I plan on moving to Santa Monica, Ca in 2 yrs. to give me some time to save money. I plan on renting an Apt. there, I visited this past March and I loved it there :). Any info on the cost of living, and the school systems will be nice! My son will be 5 when we move. Thx in advance^^.

How can I take a bus from Santa Monica, CA to Irvine, CA? I live in Santa Monica, California. I want to visit my friends who live in Irvine, Clifornia. How can I take a bus from Santa Monica College to Irvine Valley College or University of Claifornia-Irvine or South Coast Plaza. Then my friends can pick me up there.